Timeline for We need to downvote more
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| Oct 19, 2022 at 22:10 | answer | added | Jess | timeline score: 0 | |
| Oct 19, 2022 at 2:55 | answer | added | Dan Fefferman | timeline score: 3 | |
| Aug 19, 2019 at 7:12 | comment | added | Lucian | We need to downvote more - Your wish is my command ! Now, is there anything else you'd like me to do ? | |
| Jun 5, 2018 at 15:37 | comment | added | Dan | See also this post: "The key distinction to make here, in my mind, is that all questions are ultimately in service of the people answering them. That is the audience you need to satisfy if you want to have any hope of creating and sustaining a community of peers learning from each other. The minimum bar for a question is not “is this on-topic?”, but rather “is this somewhat interesting and on-topic?”." | |
| Jun 5, 2018 at 15:32 | comment | added | Dan | Also check out: A helpful flowchart for asking questions on BH.SE | |
| Jun 5, 2018 at 15:32 | comment | added | Dan | @Bach but be sure to read the screenshot in this post, which is directly from SE giving guidance on attracting users. I would argue that folks with nothing but their Bible who happen to attend religious services are not experts, and not necessarily the people we want to attract (at least we don't want the majority of answers to come from these folks if they have not read considerably about the historical, linguistic, and literary context of specific biblical texts). I'm a novice myself but I read constantly. | |
| Jun 5, 2018 at 15:16 | comment | added | bach | @Dan I wholly agree with your point. I gotta run now. | |
| Jun 5, 2018 at 15:15 | comment | added | bach | That is, if the user is not too popular. For example this hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/33349/… attracted more than 1200 views in one day because a popular user answered it | |
| Jun 5, 2018 at 15:15 | comment | added | Dan | @Bach part of the issue is the signal-to-noise ratio, which is precisely what downvoting (and upvoting) improves. I frequently come and get so disgusted with garbage in the first few questions/answers I see I just end up leaving. I know for a fact I'm not alone in this. If more users downvoted stuff that was not going to attract experts and upvoted great stuff, that would help a lot. But people here don't downvote enough compared to other SE sites. | |
| Jun 5, 2018 at 15:12 | comment | added | bach | @Dan thanks. I think you get the idea. In any case, I think that strict hermeneutical questions do not get much attention here. If the title is not too catchy or ostentatious it will not attract to many views. | |
| Jun 5, 2018 at 15:11 | comment | added | Dan | @Bach again, most views are not users of this site. | |
| Jun 5, 2018 at 15:10 | comment | added | Dan | @Bach great question. I just upvoted | |
| Jun 5, 2018 at 15:09 | comment | added | bach | what about mine here? hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/32921/… it did not attract so many viewers to begin with, but only one upvote from 30 views is still meager | |
| Jun 5, 2018 at 15:08 | comment | added | Dan | @Bach that's another one I would simply not vote on either. It's an OK question, so no DV. But certainly also no upvote from me. | |
| Jun 5, 2018 at 15:07 | comment | added | Dan | @Bach s/he should cite what s/he has read then ask a more specific question in my opinion. But that's just my opinion: I did not downvote that question, it isn't bad. Just not upvote-worthy in my opinion. | |
| Jun 5, 2018 at 15:01 | comment | added | bach | @Dan I believe the OP only asked after she did some rudimentary research. As you quote from the JSB, this still remains a matter of debate, so the OP wanted hear other users opinion on the matter. Is that so terrible? An example of a question that shows virtually no effort of research on the part of the OP is this one hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/33303/… indeed i did not upvote | |
| Jun 5, 2018 at 14:50 | comment | added | Dan | An evangelical commentary, intent on taking the text at face value as the words of Solomon inspired by God, may not address these things. But any decent scholarly one will. And as I linked to in my previous comment, such commentaries can be found for free online. | |
| Jun 5, 2018 at 14:49 | comment | added | Dan | @Bach I just flipped open the Jewish Study Bible and found: "The compositional history and origin of the Song of Songs remain matters of debate. Most commentators agree that the book is a collection of poetic units which are linked by theme, language, and style...." And it goes on. You can even read free online commentaries about this (albeit a bit dated, but still a great starting point that would show some initial research effort on the part of the OP). | |
| Jun 5, 2018 at 14:37 | comment | added | bach | @Dan I guess other viewers feel the same way, but I don't. It's not like this question can be easily solved by looking it up in a commentary, so in my opinion this and other similar questions should be upvoted more easily. | |
| Jun 5, 2018 at 14:37 | comment | added | Dan | @Bach nope - in fact, most views probably are not users of the site - they often find it through a Google search. | |
| Jun 5, 2018 at 14:34 | comment | added | Dan | @Bach for that question, I would not vote at all (and haven't). It's not so bad to warrant a downvote, but it also shows a lack of research effort and seems a bit broad. Many study bibles address this in their introduction to the book. If the OP had read such an introduction then asked a more specific question about a specific passage, I'd have upvoted. But that's just me. I can't comment on why others vote the way they do. In my mind, the question does not attract experts. It's a basic question that is a bit broad and shows little to no research effort. | |
| Jun 5, 2018 at 14:33 | comment | added | bach | @Dan I reckon most of the viewers were users who were able to vote but didn't. | |
| Jun 5, 2018 at 14:32 | comment | added | bach | @Dan actually it has been upvoted once, but was mysteriously downvoted and has been that way since | |
| Jun 5, 2018 at 14:31 | comment | added | Dan | @Bach keep in mind not all views are users who can vote. That is how many people on the Internet viewed it. | |
| Jun 5, 2018 at 14:30 | comment | added | bach | @dan see for example this hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/6209/…... 107 views and not a single upvote! | |
| Jun 5, 2018 at 14:19 | comment | added | Dan | @Bach it could just be low participation overall. What is one of the questions you think should have more upvotes (out of curiosity)? | |
| Jun 5, 2018 at 14:02 | comment | added | bach | @Dan I agree that questions that show lack of research should not be upvoted. But it happens a lot (and I've seen it multiple times) that great questions simply do not get the upvotes they deserve. I see 20 views but no upvotes. I feel like, "guys, at least dowvote if not upvote, do something!" There is no question that users here are reluctant to upvote, and I think we need to raise awareness. | |
| Jun 5, 2018 at 13:56 | comment | added | Dan | @Bach an upvote in answers indicates the answer is helpful, for questions I upvote when o think a question is interesting. I don’t upvote stuff that won’t attract experts, particularly when it shows the OP has not read even basic books or done any research on their own. I make some exceptions where such research is prohibitive, such as when it is asking about ancient languages. But that’s just me. I’m just one dude. Feel free to post your own appeal for upvotes. | |
| Jun 5, 2018 at 13:53 | comment | added | bach | Dan have you considered posting an "we need to upvote more"? I think it would be beneficial, as there are numerous posted questions that meet the criteria but which no one cares to upvote. And upvoting is really free, so I cannot understand why people here are hesitant to upvote when they clearly deserves it. People need to understand that an upvote is not a certificate of excellence, it is just a way of saying "this question is worthy to be asked". | |
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| Nov 27, 2014 at 10:38 | answer | added | Tau | timeline score: 11 | |
| Nov 26, 2014 at 6:53 | comment | added | Dan Mod | @curiousdannii indeed, there is also a lot of stuff that deserves way more upvotes as well! | |
| Nov 26, 2014 at 5:12 | comment | added | curiousdannii Mod | I don't know how seriously to treat their desire for 'experts', but more voting in general would be good. | |
| Nov 25, 2014 at 0:54 | history | tweeted | twitter.com/#!/StackBibleHerm/status/537046580717957120 | ||
| Nov 24, 2014 at 15:35 | history | edited | DanMod | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Nov 24, 2014 at 15:34 | comment | added | Dan Mod | @JackDouglas I actually didn't know that! I learned something new today! I just updated the post, thanks :) | |
| Nov 24, 2014 at 7:57 | comment | added | Dɑvïd | @JackDouglas - took me a while to discover that. It was quite liberating. :) | |
| Nov 24, 2014 at 7:35 | comment | added | Jack Douglas | have you mentioned that DVing a question is free? | |
| Nov 24, 2014 at 2:27 | history | edited | DanMod | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Nov 24, 2014 at 0:07 | history | asked | DanMod | CC BY-SA 3.0 |